So..

I'm a rare breed and love grinding monsters for money. Is that an ok way to make cash? My main is going to be Witch. 

Also I see people talking about doing alts for lifeskills.. couldn't I just do all lifeskills on my main? I really want to focus on 1 character and make alts only if needed. 

Thanks

Fastest way to make money in this game is grind/kill mobs then buy things in the central market/auction house

it might be a good idea to make a network of friends or join a guild.  I have a feeling the ps4 market might be a little less flush with stuff due to people not afk processing etc so when you say want to buy a fishing boat to sail to pirates, armor to repair, or other items that need to be crafted it’s good to know a group of people who can build one and toss it up on the market - if you get a preorder in you’ll probably get it as long as the item isn’t super in demand.

There’s no trading in the game so everything has to go they the auction house but you can semi trade using preorders/timing listings

I'm no pro so if anyone has anything to say that's played longer or more recently then me jump in and correct me please.

I was playing for about 6 months shortly after it released on PC in NA.

I did pvp maybe twice ever. I made LOADS on money grinding mobs after I found a good flow in a spot to grind. What I did even more than that was lifeskills. Was alot of fun to me I'm not gonna lie. Was almost on the leaderboard for farming because I had Max of the largest farms and I have no life *shrug*

I had a witch to grind PVE and I had a second character for lifeskills. First because I could keep my lifeskills person just under the pvp lvl by not doing the quest and second I could park it in my town that had all my cooking/alc/processing/farming stuff. So when I was done doing something or when my I knew my farms we're ready I didn't need to run ALL the way back to do stuff I just switched characters AND I could not get open world pvped in the middle of farming my crops/fishing/gathering like I could in my main (witch). For me having the freedom to run around and lifeskills or fish anywhere without the fear of getting attacked by a player in the middle of it and not having to run all the way back to my hub town was well worth it. (And if you plan on training horses you may just end up frustrated if someone's being a jerk and your PK level)

Obviously you can lifeskills on your main character and lots of people do it but it does open you up to pvp when you just want to "lifeskills and chill"

Also just a heads up making alts is a very good thing! Energy pools and family game from all of the alts will come in handy! Again not 100% necessary but very handy when your attempting to build a worker empire to help lifeskills!

Lifeskilling is a pretty big conversation. How about this; do you want to carry around food for your works and pets in your inventory that takes up space and weight or just have a character in town that can switch to while grinding and feed them?

Some quests and some lifeskills can use up your mains energy. If you have alts then you can have a NPC convert their energy into potions for your main. There is also a vendor that can many people use to buy boss gear and black stones from. Looking at his inventory costs energy and he only spawns at night in the main cities. You could have alts in a city and use them to browse that vendor's store while your main is somewhere else or you stop whatever your main is doing and run them to the vendor if you want to see if he is selling boss gear.

Hmm maybe I will make a lifeskill alt then..

With my main being witch. Any suggestions for a lifeskill alt? Out of the starting 6 classes?

I was thinking of doing a wizard or ranger for my boss alt. And maybe the other for lifeskills?

I'm also happy to know I can make money grinding cause I love just grinding my heart out lol..

I'm making a witch to grind and a ranger for lifeskills for the speed boost or what ever. By the time I get those two established there will be more classes for me to make.  Just keep in mind I've been told witch and wizard are basically the same thing up till awakening then they are only slightly different.  I like the witch pets more after awakening so I'm gonna make her again on PS4.

Ya I think I might also just keep to witch. Not to keen on wizard.

For lifeskill I wonder if I should also do Ranger. Not sure what the speed boost is since I never tried ranger yet lol.  Life skill characters are best to get to 49 and keep there?

I'll add a different opinion that favors life skilling on one character since it's what I'll be doing. Onyxninja brings up a good point that on you main you will be open to pvp post lvl 50, but in my opinion that makes it more exciting. SoloTyrant is right, you will want a full sheet of alts for the night vendor/ energy potions.

Since they changed energy consumption with some life skills it makes it possible to do them all on one character. Once you get your gathering to artisan you'll notice that your pool of 200 energy actually feels like 400.

• Gathering still consumes energy. High gathering reduces the change to use energy.
• Processing no longer consumes energy.
• Cooking no longer consumes energy.
• Alchemy no longer consumes energy.
• Farming consumes energy by gathering crops. High gathering reduces the change to use energy.
• Fishing consumes energy.
• Hunting consumes energy by gathering from a corpse you've hunted. High gathering reduces the chance to use energy.
• Trading only consumes energy if you bargain. If you bargain it still barely consumes energy.

The only thing you'd need life skill alts for is if you wanted to level gathering and farming at the same time, which is not necessary. hunting can actually be leveled up through a daily quest chain and doesn't require you to spend energy. Since processing, cooking and alchemy don't require energy anymore, this really reduces the need for life skill alts. I'll be real here, creating alts to log onto for processing/cooking/alchemy just to minimize downtime is ridiculous. A few months down the road and it won't matter if you can log onto your alt and save 10 minutes of running across the world, which by the way you could use that run to level up horses for training.

An effective set-up would be to live close to where you are going to set up your farms and close to a bank, cooking vendor and general goods vendor. Essentially live in a city and set up your farm right outside. This is because cooking and alchemy require you to utilize a tool that can only be placed inside your home. Processing you'll want to do by the bank because of weight and you don't want to run across the world to tend your crops.

If you want to life skill on your main you should still make a full sheet of alts for the night vendor or to convert their energy into energy potions for your main. It's also a good idea to have an alt near your main bank so you can feed your workers if your main is to far away. If you really want to maximize your life skill utilization then make an alt for farming and and alt for fishing. Otherwise you can do everything on your main character.

Ok that's good to know.

I'm thinking I might stick to my main then. I dont mind having to travel and explore or gather. That makes it fun. Saving 10 mins would just be meh. 

I will make a alt like stated for worker feeder and alts for energy potions.  But if I can really focus all lifeskills on 1 character I might do that. 

I'm sure Witch is going to be my main for a long time. The only other classes that peak my interest arnt going to be out for awhile. And when released I can always level for boss alts or something. 

I'm just trying to figure out when I start next week if I make some alts right away or just wait a bit and focus on my main.

37 minutes ago, Aetheon said:

 

• Fishing consumes energy.

Only active fishing, and if it hasn't changed, only for throwing the rod farther.

AFK fishing doesn't consume energy(but is slower and you won't profit from good fishing spot this way, since they are not permanent and need you to move around).

Rest of Aetheon post is right on spot.

If you really want a lifeskiller alt, wait for Shai : she starts with gathering and alchemy Pro.

the only real use of alt energy is the Night Vendor ( and i'm not sure we will have him until Mediah ).

The only real use of alt/reroll is to keep different failstacks for high enhancement (+13 to +15), and later from TRI to PEN (+18 to +20 ) since you can NOT downgrade for PRI and DUO(+16,+17) . The introduction of Advice of Valks sold by Blacksmith solved that too, up to +50 failstacks. Some event along the road will also net you some fully filled +100 failstack Advices of Valks.

BDO has changed a lot since its PC release, and from my point of view, is more on phase with Guild War 2 cash shop now.

Some will object that cron stones(that you can buy from blacksmith) obtained from heating Cash shop costumes for Cron stones (to avoid downgrading while enhancing, while it does not up your failstack count) are Pay to Win : if you are stupid enough to burn a paycheck on that (we are talking on 22 to 30 bucks costumes there), with no more chances than normal that your enhancing will pass, well...you are just too rich, or plain stupid.

When you are a hard core life skilling running 10 min across the map (twice) to do something simple you need to do crafting wise is 20 min. Doing it one time per day for a week is 140 lost min. At a (realistic) 2 second cooking that's 4200 times crafting lost a week due to needing to "just run across the map". You call it ridiculous to park one single alt at a major hub town to do all your crafting I call it efficient. But then again I work long hours and don't have an extra 20 min to constantly run around the map when I play.

You call it ridiculous to make an alt to stay at a single hub town for all crafting to save time then in the same post tell him to put everything in one town to save time AND park an alt near a bank to save time for beer lmfao. So its ridiculous to park a crafting alt at a bank to save 10 min (two ways) every time you want to craft or tend crops but it's ok to do the same thing to save the same time to beer up your worker empire.  I'm not 100% sure I follow your logic on what is and is not ridiculous because they sound exactly the same to me. Haha

Again just my honest opinion. Seems like you said it's stupid to save time then in the same post said to do the same thing for a different reason to save the same amount of time. Seems silly when you really think about it.

I'm thinking I might just focus on my witch main. Do some lifeskills on that for awhile. Maybe start a alt or two to have available. I do want to level a shai when that comes so I could switch that to life skill alt then.

As for cash shop I only plan buying pets if needed or cool cosumes to wear if needed. Maybe inventory.  Idk. I dont mind spending a bit. Like 15? A check or 30 a month cause playing this game saves me from randomly buying 60$ games lol..

What's wrong with being $60 games? Don't do it randomly. It is the basis of this hobby.

Nothing is wrong but I tend to spend money on stupid games lol.. I just need a good MMO to sink my teeth in lol.

Coming from Anthem disappointment..

21 hours ago, Onyxninja said:

Again just my honest opinion. Seems like you said it's stupid to save time then in the same post said to do the same thing for a different reason to save the same amount of time. Seems silly when you really think about it.

Nha, it's not ridiculous to want to save time. At any point in game we all do it.

but wait for release for an army of trolls to start burning the game on its supposed P2W ground.

It happened on PC, and XBOX, it will on PS4 too ^^

the only "really needed " thing you need in the CS are pets nowadays.

Rest is convenience, as you see fit.

But be ready to see a ton of people popping after release trying to convince everyone that the Grand Scheme of P.A is to run you dry of money, with each subsequent update.

As long as it satisfy you, play as you want. Nowadays, almost all of the CS is far from necessary/mandatory.

that's my point .

Yeh you only need pets and if you grind in a group and have it set so everything sells - severs people with free pets is fine.  If your power grinding and super geared higher pets are better but with free pets from events everyone will likely have a few pets within a few months and people might sell them on the market if u can grab one.

i recommend saving loyalty for weight but you don’t really need it if your in groups and bring a wagon to grind that can hold potions and trash drops.

oh and on the night vendor - Xbox got it with Valencia patch where as pc I think we got it a little after mediah so I guess it would be Valencia for us on ps4 which was 2 months in.  I imagine it’s to prevent people from just using that to get boss gear - even though with the boss timers unfriendly to working joes I never make most of them

On 8/13/2019 at 12:50 PM, Onyxninja said:

When you are a hard core life skilling running 10 min across the map (twice) to do something simple you need to do crafting wise is 20 min. Doing it one time per day for a week is 140 lost min. At a (realistic) 2 second cooking that's 4200 times crafting lost a week due to needing to "just run across the map". You call it ridiculous to park one single alt at a major hub town to do all your crafting I call it efficient. But then again I work long hours and don't have an extra 20 min to constantly run around the map when I play.

 

You call it ridiculous to make an alt to stay at a single hub town for all crafting to save time then in the same post tell him to put everything in one town to save time AND park an alt near a bank to save time for beer lmfao. So its ridiculous to park a crafting alt at a bank to save 10 min (two ways) every time you want to craft or tend crops but it's ok to do the same thing to save the same time to beer up your worker empire.  I'm not 100% sure I follow your logic on what is and is not ridiculous because they sound exactly the same to me. Haha

 

Again just my honest opinion. Seems like you said it's stupid to save time then in the same post said to do the same thing for a different reason to save the same amount of time. Seems silly when you really think about it.

Alright, I can see I upset you. I wasn't throwing shade at you, or telling you that what you do is wrong. The purpose of the thread was to find out if the OP could lifeskill on one character. I explained how he could do that and why it's not that bad of an idea anymore.

First of all, the OP never mentioned that he wanted to maximize his lifeskilling efficiency. If he had, then I would have told him it'd be a good idea to have an alt for each lifeskill. I'm sorry but if your across the map grinding, what would you need to do that's so important you have to stop grinding and craft it? Why would you be across the map and all of a sudden need to cook? And why do you have to do it once per day? It's pretty simple, if you have full energy dump it on something, then go across the map to do whatever. Once you get near full energy again, head back out.

Creating alts for the night vendor or to get beer from the bank is not the same as creating alts for lifeskilling, which is why I said it would be a good idea to create a bunch of alts and to put everything in one city. As for farming, if you are trying to level up the skill, you should not be running around the world waiting for your crops to need to be pruned as it happens fairly frequently. If on the other hand you want your farm for producing an item, then assign a worker to it, pretty simple.

Like I said before, creating alts for processing/cooking/alchemy is ridiculous now, there's literally no need.

Again, I'm explaining to the OP how you can have one character to do all the lifeskills on, I hope that helps you understand my logic.

? as the OP I appreciate it. I might stay with 1 character.  Maybe alts in the future. I see BDO as a MMO I play for a good while 

Yeh from pc experience the one main reason you need an alt is world bosses - it allows you to level or grind an area then close to a big world boss you can switch over.  When the new areas open up it can take like a 10+ min to ride across the map depending on where you are.

I might do a boss alt. Maybe ranger. Since with is my main I dont know if I wana do wiz as my boss alt

I feel like a ranger would make a really good boss alt.

Really? Do I keep it at 49 or level to 50?

I think PvP is disabled for world bosses.

 as I remember not for all. But I can be wrong

Ok that's good to know. I might do witch as main then ranger for boss alt. And do lifeskills on my witch. I dont mind traveling and stuff.

Eventually when they add more classes I do want to try tamer. Ninja. Shai. Etc so maybe then i can level more alts for other things.